Fmr. Canada PM on conservative populism vs. socialism

Fmr. Canada PM on conservative populism vs. socialism

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TO THE UNITED STATES. MARIA: WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHAT’S TAKING PLACE RIGHT NOW? THIS IDEA THAT WE’RE ACTUALLY DEBATING SOCIALISM, THIS POPULISM TAKING CONTROL, YOUR NEW BOOK HITTING STORE SHELVES TODAY. YOUR NEW BOOK EXAMINES THIS POPULISM AND UNDERPINNINGS OF HOW PRESIDENT TRUMP WON THE 2016 ELECTION. EXPLAIN.>>IT’S NOT JUST ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP. YOU SEE IN ALMOST EVERY WESTERN DEMOCRACY NOW, CANADA’S AN EXCEPTION, IN ALMOST EVERY WESTERN DEMOCRACY YOU SEE THE RISE OF IN A SENSE A TRUMP-LIKE MOVEMENT. IT’S A CONSERVATIVE SORT OF CONSERVATIVE POPULISM THAT HAS PROBLEMS WITH THE WAY MARKETS, TRADE POLICY, IMMIGRATION POLICY HAVE BEEN HANDLED. MARIA: WE SAW IT IN BRAZIL YESTERDAY. YOU’RE SEEING IT IN ITALY AS WE SPEAK.>>YOU’RE SEEING IT ALL OVER THE WORLD. I KNOW A LOT OF TRADITIONAL CONSERVATIVES, THE REACTION HAS BEEN TO BE MONEY BEEN TO CE MONEY BEEN TO CONMONEY BEEN TO CONDENEY BEEN TO CONDEMNY BEEN TO CONDEMN IT. I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT WE LISTEN TO PEOPLE AND ADJUST OUR POLICIES TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS. I THINK THE CONCERNS ARE REAL. I THINK IN SOME CASES THEY’RE LEGITIMATE. AS YOU JUST SAID, THE ALTERNATIVE IF WE DO NOT ADDRESS THEM IS TO NOT GO BACK TO THE WAY THINGS WERE. THE ALTERNATIVE WILL BE LEFT WING SOCIALISM WHICH I THINK IS FAR MORE DANGEROUS, WHICH WOULD TAKE OUR WESTERN ECONOMIES ON AN INEVITABLE AND LONG-TERM DECLINE. MARIA: DO PEOPLE ON THE EXTREME LEFT PUSHING THIS SOCIALIST IDEA NOT UNDERSTAND ECONOMICS? WE’VE SEEN SOCIALISM AT WORK IN VENEZUELA, FOR EXAMPLE, AND WE KNOW WHAT IT IS AND HOW IT IMPACTS THINGS.>>WELL — MARIA: WHY HAVE THIS DEBATE?>>LOOK, IT IS PERPLEXING. HERE WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC PHILOSOPHY THAT LITERALLY HAS FAILED EVERY SINGLE PLACE IT’S EVER BEEN TRIED. SOMETIMES MORE SPECTACULARLY THAN OTHERS. THAT’S JUST ON THE ECONOMIC SIDE. FORGET THE POLITICAL TYRANNY AND REPRESSION THAT USUALLY COMES WITH IT. SO WHY DOES IT KEEP COMING BACK? YOU KNOW, YOUR GUESS IS AS GOOD AS MINE. I FRANKLY ATTRIBUTE IT TO THE LONG-TERM SUPPORT FOR SOCIALISM, MARXISM THAT EXISTED. WE’RE OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER THE FALL OF THE BERLIN WALL. WHAT STRUCK ME ABOUT THE FALL OF THE BERLIN WALL, WE FOUND OUT ALL THE MARXIST WERE ON THE WESTERN SIDE. THIS PHYSICIAN ALSO PHI PHILOSOH THIS PHYSICIAN ALSO PHI PHILOSOY THIS PHYSICIAN ALSO PHI PHILOSOC THIS PHYSICIAN ALSO PHI PHILOSON THIS PHYSICIAN ALSO PHI PHILOSOI THIS PHYSICIAN ALSO PHI PHILOSOU THIS PHYSICIAN ALSO PHI PHILOSOS THIS PHYSICIAN ALSO PHI PHILOSOT THIS PHYSICIAN ALSO PHI PHILOSOO THIS PHYSICIAN ALSO PHI PHILOSOG THIS PHYSICIAN ALSO PHI PHILOSOT PERPETUATED. YOU HAVE GENERATIONS OF PEOPLE WHO NEVER EXPERIENCED WHAT SOCIALIST ECONOMICS REALLY MEANS AND WHAT IT DOES. MARIA: YOUR NEW BOOK ALSO LAY OUT HOW BUSINESS LEADERS CAN ACTUALLY ADAPT IN THIS AGE OF DISRUPTION. TELL US ABOUT THAT.>>THERE’S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS BUSINESSES NEED TO DO. I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE’RE IN AN AGE WHERE PUBLIC OPINION CAN FORM VERY QUICKLY AND VERY UNPREDICTABLY THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA. FIRST AND FOREMOST, BUSINESS LEADERS HAVE TO BE CONSCIOUS OF HOW THEIR ACTIONS ARE AFFECTING SOCIETY, WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIPS THEY HAVE IN THE COMMUNITIES THEY OPERATE IN AND THE MOST IMPORTANT, SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING THEY NEED TO DO IS BUILD NETWORKS SO THE PEOPLE THEY DEAL WITH, SUPPLIERS, CUSTOMERS, COMMUNITIES, UNDERSTAND THEIR VALUE PROPOSITION AND UNDERSTAND HOW THEY BENEFIT FROM THE ACTIVITIES OF THE COMPANY BECAUSE IF YOU DON’T DO THAT, IF YOU DON’T BUILD THOSE NETWORKS, YOU’RE EXTREMELY VULNERABLE TO SOME KIND OF UNPREDICT POLITICAL UPHEAVAL. MARIA: YOU COULD APPLY THAT TO WHAT’S HAPPENING WITH CHINA RIGHT NOW. THE PRESIDENT AND ALLIES HAVE TRIED TO BUILD THIS NETWORK TO GO UP AGAINST CHINA. THAT’S WHAT A LOT OF THE CRITICS OF PRESIDENT TRUMP’S TARIFFS HAVE BEEN SAYING, LET’S NOT FIGHT WITH EVERYBODY, LET’S MAKE SURE EVERYBODY’S ON THE SAME TEAM AGAINST CHINA. TELL US ABOUT CHINA’S PRACTICE.>>THERE’S CRITICISM ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF CHINA’S PRACTICES, THE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY THEFT, AND THEY’RE REAL. I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH CHINESE TRADE IS MORE FUNDAMENTAL. WE’VE ENDED UP SETTING UP A SYSTEM POST WTO, I CAN CRITICIZE THIS, BECAUSE IT HAPPENED BEFORE I WAS THERE, WHERE REALLY THE DIE NIECE CHECE CHINESE CAN HAVE WIDE RANGING ACCESS TO OUR MARKETS. THEY CAN SELL WHAT THEY WANT, WHERE THEY WANT, WHAT QUANTITY. IT IS THE OPPOSITE IN THE CASE OF US. WHEN WE GO TO CHINA, WE CAN ONLY SELL WHAT THE CHINESE SAY WE CAN SELL, WHEN THEY SAY WE CAN SELL IT, IN WHAT QUANTITY. THE MARKET ACCESS IS RADICALLY DIFFERENT. YOU’RE SEEING THAT REFLECTED IN THE TRADE STATISTICS. YOU WOULD EXPECT A POORER COUNTRY LIKE CHINA TO HAVE A TRADE SURPLUS WITH THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA. THESE ARE SURPLUSES THAT KEEP GROWTH AS CHINA’S WEALTH IS GROWING. IT’S DUE TO UNEQUAL MARKET ACCESS. I BELIEVE IF YOU LOOK TO YOUR COUNTRY, THE UNITED STATES, YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE A COUNTRY THAT IS POTENTIALLY LARGER AND A GEOPOLITICAL RIVAL HAVING UNEQUAL ACCESS TO THE UNITED STATES MARKET. I THINK THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL PROBLEM. AND WHILE I CAN DISAGREE WITH — WE CAN DEBATE SOME OF TRUMP’S TACTICS, THE FACT THAT HE’S WILLING TO ADDRESS THIS I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT. MARIA: I THINK YOU MAKE A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT IN TERMS OF MARKET ACCESS. NOW, THE CHINESE HAVE SAID OKAY, IN FIVE YEARS YOU WILL BE ABLE TO OWN OUTRIGHT A COMPANY THAT IS CHINESE IN FIVE YEARS IN THE AUTO SECTOR OR IN THE BANKING SECTOR, RATHER. WE’LL SEE WHAT THAT MEANS. SO IF THEY COULD OPEN UP MARKETS THAT WOULD BE ONE TRI. WHAT VIAT VICTORY.WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS O VICTORY.WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS N VICTORY.WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS T VICTORY.WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS E NATIONAL SECURITY PART OF THIS. THAT’S ANOTHER ISSUE FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. CHINA STARTED CREATING ISLANDS IF THE SOUTH CHAI YA IF THE SOUTH CHII YA IF THE SOUTH CHINAYA IF THE SOUTH CHINA SEA. THEY DON’T OWN THE SOUTH CHINA SEA. THEY’RE PUTTING MILITARY BASES ON THE ISLANDS.>>THERE’S BEEN AN ASSERTION IN MANY CIRCLES THAT CHINA’S NATIONALISM IS STRICTLY DEFENSIVE OR STRICTLY INWARD LOOKING. I THINK YOU’RE SEEING GROWING SIGNS THAT CHINA REALLY DOES HAVE A MORE AGGRESSIVE POSTURE THAN PEOPLE THINK AND THE BUILDING OF ISLANDS IN THE SOUTH CHINA SEA IS FRANKLY OUTRAY JUST. CHINESE — OUTRAGEOUS. CHINESE TERRITORIAL CLAIMS WHICH GO HUNDREDS OF MILES FROM THEIR SHORE, TO THE COAST OF OTHER COUNTRIES IN THE REGION, THESE ARE NOT REASONABLE CLAIMS. WE WANT TO ENGAGE CHINA ECONOMIC AT THIS. THERE’S ADVANTAGES TO BE HAD. CHINA IS A BETTER PLACE TODAY THAN IT WAS MANY YEARS AGO, BUT NEVERTHELESS, THIS COMBINATION OF TRADE AGGRESSION AND INCREASINGLY MILITARY AND STRATEGIC AGGRESSION I THINK SHOULD CONCERN US MANUFACTURE MARIA: MR. PRIME MINISTER, IT’S GREAT TO SEE YOU.

100 comments

  1. All those stoners crawled out of their moms basement and voted for justin must be happy now. Steven Harper is truly missed, we had it good for a few years anyways.

  2. I feel so ashamed I didn't like this man more when I knew how important people like him were… Now Canada is dead in the water with a part time drama teacher **

  3. This guy acted like a complete fascist when he our prime minister in Canada. He disolved parliament TWICE so he didn't have to face a vote of no-confidence that would have led to his effective impeachment or a new election. Harper also sucked the cock of the oil industry – they were the only people he ever listened to, rather than average Canadians struggling to get by.

  4. I had hoped that Mr. Harper would have been re-elected, but there were to many ill informed and just plain stupid people.. thinking Trudeau would do more and he's done nothing except bring in more immigrants, legalized weed and sent billions of dollars outside Canada. Can we now have our PC party back..

  5. Limit International students in Colleges… international enrollment should ONLY be for universities and post graduates not programs that lead to jobs where MOST CANADIANS can fill them… Seen too many International Students from India Working illegally and REPLACING local students for jobs!

  6. Right on Harper you've gotten cooler too late to impress the voter. China is not ready act cival so to hell with them o buy from them and they restrict me ? We need buy local resist their lower price and go back to quality not quantity

  7. Recycled loser whose own corruption and pedophile friends are a permanent disgrace to Canada. You can have him. Canada no longer listens to this Jackass.

  8. Just as a refresher: socialism is a response to abuse by capitalism. If left uncheck, free markets spawn inequalities, slavery, ghettos, and crime. Neither right, nor left wings are perfect. Hiding on a yacht or jet doesn't cancel those observations.

  9. THIS HARPER ASSHOLE TRIED MAKING ME WORK TILL I WAS 67 TRUDEAU REVERSED IT BACK TO 65 SO AS A 32YR SAME JOB GUY WITH 5 TO GO RATHER THEN 7 ,I WOULD LIKE TO TELL HARPER TO GO FUCK YOUR SELF

  10. This would be a lot easier to listen to if Stephen Harper didn't try to muzzle Canadian scientists in order to keep his oil profits safe. Capitalism is rife with corruption too. I do agree that socialist economics suck but a mix of socialism and capitalism is what makes 1st world countries as good as they are. You like roads, firefighters, having a police force, military, school system….all of those things come from a big "pool of evil socialist tax dollars". We need a bit of the left and the right for the best society out there.

  11. Mandated and enforced responsible journalism, that would be an effective first step. Compelled education on the failure of socialism. Punish civil disobedience more aggressively, allow legitimate demonstration which are civil; meaning no disruption to citizens or traffic. Designate demonstration areas that are accessible and schedule political response representatives to hear the concerns and to respond with facts. Ensure the concerns are tabled for debate and that the rights of all citizens are not diminished by any special interest groups. Keep emotions and religion out of politics, let the police deal with civility.

  12. I wish here in America we could have a leader like Stephen Harper. The man gets the issues and speaks about them with calm and clarity. He's no push over like Trudeau and Obama, but isn't as brash as Donald Trump.

  13. Thank you Prime Minister Harper for you dedication and commitment to Canada, our Allies, and our National interests. It's a pleasure to watch/listen to an intelligent, fact based discussion on current issues and challenges. We miss you!

  14. At the height of the roman empire no one could have defeated the romans…. except the romans themselves. This is what is happening to the west. We are destroying ourselves from the inside out by throwing our culture, our identity, out the fucking window and replacing with foreigners who don't share our values, who don't have any interest in assimilating or adopting our values. They gladly walk down our streets and spit in our faces and tell us it is their streets and that we are the racists. and you fucking faggots sit here on talk shows and support this fucking non-sense to virtue signal to the whole fucking world that you're not "xenophobic" that your not "racist". Well, you are a traitor to your own country and fucking cowards. It's time for us to rally behind a king and fucking take back our country. As ridiculous as it sounds we did it in the past we can fucking do it again. It's time for a second Crusade.

  15. This neoliberal idiot did his best to destroyed everything good (socialist) about Canada that we attained through our people’s party leader Tommy Douglas. Good riddance to Harper.

  16. I cant believe Trump supporters, Stephen Harper Supporters Can Turn There Backs On 10000's of aboriginal girls and support child rapists women abuserse of saudi arabia!!

  17. Listening to our former PM makes me feel even more sad about our current state of affairs. Notice he doesn't wear colored socks btw 🤔

  18. Canada needs to wake up and get rid of their feminist socialist Government. The little girl running the country should be hung for treason. Their school system is as bad as ours, filled with liberal communists damaging your children. Time for business to abandon China.

  19. Socialism goes back before Marx – it was a philosophy of general welfare and helping the poor. It wasn't "failed everywhere it was tried" – it's deeply embedded in the health of a capitalist economy.

  20. fuck off stephen and fox. i’m not a liberal or conservative, but conservatism ain’t any better either. we need something new beyond stale lib/con political philosophy. they both suck.

  21. This man started as a great PM for Canada. Unfortunately his last years were less than impressive which was why there was such a push for Trudeau. But he was very smart and well spoken

  22. Traded a masters of economics and 20+ years experience for a prima donna college dropout part time drama teacher. Canada messed up!

  23. Ah Canadians, We (not me) chose floundering incompetence that has become the laughing stock of the free world, over the Quiet competence of this fine man Stephen Harper. For that matter, the liberal party chose a pretty part time snowboard instructor/ substitute drama teacher Lil' justy tradoh as their leader ( cause Daddy).HMMMMMMMMMMM??????? The mind boggles.They chose this fool over, a man like Marc Garneau, a Man Of extreme competence and effort and natural leadership. Canada may well be heading to a future civil war or dissolution.

  24. Harper and Trump would have made a killer team, fuck I wish he was still PM.

    He was the best and most truest PM we have ever had, we had it fucking good with him and now Canada is a joke cause of the stupid, retarded Libtards that voted this embarrassment in.

    Trudeau is going out in 2019.

    #MakeCanadaGreatAgain
    #VoteTrudeauOut
    #BigBlueWave2019
    #Sheer4PM

  25. This man is an absolute giant and I miss him. Glad he is finally speaking out. Why Canada voted him out for Trudeau, I have no idea. Obama used to have so much contempt for Harper. That tells you a lot.

  26. Great leader, great man. Since Harper will likely never run for PM again, we CAN have his old team of great people who supported him for his 10+ years in office.

  27. Stephen Harper provided positive and effective leadership in challenging times. It is unfortunate that he was voted out of office. The Venting Vigilante.

  28. Shut the hell up Prime Minister Harper, every single large corporation like : Wall Mart, Home Depot, Apple, ……..you name it got $ Billions from hard working people in China, while westerns sat on their asses, Chinese people worked hard to be where they are now and US can not see that , American are jealous of what China could achieve, US stole every Intel. from Germany and others, so go to hell United Snakes of Israkill.

  29. I never have patience to listen to Justin Trudeau because he sounds like an immigrant more than immigrant here in Canada. He is a child at heart. The word “cute” will be his legacy. Hope he won’t come back to be a PM in the next election. He is a village boy and an embarrassment to all of us in the India trip, passing of legal Cannabis, welcoming of terrorists and Islamic people to destroy this Christianity country, and more. Shaking my heads when I write this. This country was peaceful before the refugees open door policy. I am a realtor and was once called upon to consider an offer from our government who sponsored the Syrian family to rent my listing for 12-month. The offer shows that the gov’t didn’t even know how RTA 2006 works ( residential tenancy act), i.e. tenants have first right to stay in the lease after 12 months. How on earth would we consider their offer if Syrian family have no income proof and credit ? Trudeau gov’t was trying to please the EU too much at the expense of our tax dollars and Christianity values. The Islam is being aggressively promoting it in downtown outside Eaton center. This is not Canada.

  30. Check out the Peoples Party of Canada. Flat rate tax, pipeline, so people can work and Canada is on its way to economic recovery, views on immigration, etc. More to come.
    FYI – There already is a pipeline – for about 60 years now. No major accidents.

  31. Harper’s strange anti-Trump reference to “conservative populism” (which it would seem is how he presently describes himself) is in need of a response.

    Former Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper is, like many conservative fundamentalist Christians, an authoritarian. He doesn’t believe in democracy any more than does any other sociopathic control freak power hungry politician. Real democracy (the will of the people, if you will) we’ve never had and never will have. It’s a farce and the only concessions from power elites have been minimal, enough crumbs tossed to the herd to avoid insurrection and revolution. Classical Liberalism, in the tradition of John Stuart Mill – which may have once served as an antidote to calcified conservatism – has been dead for decades. Mill would be described as a socialist by today’s standards.

    Stephen Harper was a disaster for Canada as was Lyin’ Brian (Bag Man) Mulroney, the last conservative we had to endure. The only difference is Mulroney was a common criminal, a greedy influence peddler who ought to be serving a life sentence. But if you steal enough money, as we discovered in the financial and stock market debacles in 2008, you are bailed out by the victims.

    Populist conservatism, you say? I wonder if Herr Harper has any conception as to what “populist conservatism” might mean. The Conservative Party of Canada once called itself the “Progressive Conservative Party” which would be laughable if it were not so self- contradictory and ludicrous.

    Most conservative politicians are more akin to reactionary demagogues, particularly when they try to warm up to the beleaguered working classes, and are just a short side-step to the left of fascism. Many conservatives like the working class hating war mongering whiskey swilling Winston Churchill, are monarchists. How nauseating is that? The French dealt with their parasitic monarchy during their Revolution of 1789 which is why they do not exist in France today as they do in many so-called Western European “democracies”. The British queen’s decadent mug shot is still on our Canadian currency for Christ sake.

    Many people fail to realize it was Conservatives who fell into lock step with Hitler, Mussolini and Franco. Without these conservative acolytes (including big business, the wealthy elites, military establishment and the churches) they would never have been able to gain total power. Conservatives have always feared any variant of people power (real democracy) or socialism and will do anything to avoid it, including aligning themselves with dictators and butchers. The wealthy conservative Canadian prime Minister during the Great Depression, the over-fed fat bastard R B Bennett millionaire owner of Eddy Match Company only cared about gaining a peerage, did nothing to save starving people in the country and even blamed the Depression on the destitute people (which they of course had nothing to do with – only its victims. I recommend people consult Pierre Berton’s book on the Great Depression in Canada for all the sordid details.

    The smiling silver spoon Justin Trudeau is not much better than Harper as people ought to have known. Neither he nor Stephen Harper (or Donald Trump for that matter) ever put in an honest day’s work in their lives. But working people clearly vote for frauds like Harper and Trudeau or they’d never be elected.

    We’ve had rotating parliamentary doors of Conservatives and Liberals since Confederation in 1867 and it’s been a 150 year travesty and disaster for the vast majority of working people.

    There’s much more one could say about the predicament we’re in, to say nothing of global warming, species loss (several every day) and the many ecosystems circling the drain (including our oceans). Corporate Capitalism (neo-liberalism) is an evil predatory system that needs to be abolished if homo saps are to survive. There’s nothing intrinsically wrong with free enterprise and free markets if we had the real article and imposed limits of scale (imposing limits being the essence of ethics).

    Allowing corporations and individuals to amass wealth to the point that eight billionaires have more wealth than half the planet’s population is not only an unmitigated disaster for any semblance of justice or possibility of democracy, but an obscenity of seemingly infinite magnitude. We ought to heed the passages in the Bible (the few without violence or any semblance of wisdom) about love of mammon and the parable of the rich man, camel and eye of a needle.

    Stephen Harper was a catastrophe for Canada and why anyone would pay attention to his creepy conservative pontificating is strange at best.

  32. I’m an American but I really respect Mr Harper. He is truly a very smart very intelligent man who talks very clear and understands what he’s talking about.

  33. We booted an intellectual economist, and a true conservative leader for this moronic man child, who reminds me of an elementary school teacher.

  34. I missed Harper. He has class, intelligence, critical thinking, empathy, & common sense. Only if we can turn back the time… So sad we have the current PM who only brings Canadians’ lives in distress. I would choose Harper over Trudeau anytime anywhere. Harper is the real Canadian. 🇨🇦

  35. Excellent prime minister looked out for Canada I would vote for him again in a heartbeat
    Please come back and run Canada we need people with real intelligence running our country

  36. Stephen Harper was the best Prime Minister in Canada why did he have to lose against a pot head thief😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  37. Haven't you noticed how little he really speaks in a critical manner about his successor as prime minister?

  38. Oh so refreshing an intelligent prime minister. Such a contrast to Justin Trudeau. I always like Stephen Harper our media didn't like him so now we are stuck with sunny ways.

  39. PLEASE PLEASE PRIME MINISTER STEPHAN HARPER- rescue us from Trudeau .. this pathetic weasel

  40. See how the fools elected an ignorant incompetent clown 🤡 as Justin Trudeau, just to put Mr.Harper out. They hated him more than they love their country.

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